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Inbound Agency Journey Podcast

Inbound Agency Journey

Podcast hosted by Andrew Dymski & Gray MacKenzie

In this episode of Agency Journey, Pete Brand from MINDSCAPE comes on the show to discuss growing his agency, tracking results, and Growth Driven Design (GDD).

Here are the main takeaways from the interview.

Be Honest with the Numbers

Pete's background wasn't originally in marketing. But he was always frustrated by the seeming smoke and mirrors marketers will use to avoid connecting numbers to their work.

At MINDSCAPE, they work hard to make sure clients understand the data.

One way that agencies will be tricky with numbers advertise is with case studies or on the website. An example of this would be "800% traffic growth in 2 months" type of verbiage. Depending on the original volume, that may not be that much. However, since it's not articulated, clients may find themselves with unrealistic expectations or feel deceived. Neither way works for the agency, aside from signing up a frustrated client.

Marketing agencies have a mixed reputation for their honesty and the results they have delivered for clients.

It causes a lot of hesitation with prospects about too good to be true numbers.

It's important for agencies to be ethical in interpreting and sharing their data and results, even if it doesn't appear as sexy as what another agency is presenting.

To do all this though, you need to be accurately tracking all the data from the marketing you do for clients. If you're adapting based on the data and delivering better results that align with clients' objectives, you will not only create happier clients, but you'll have important numbers to show prospects. Stats tied to direct success such as ROI is way more impressive than "+100% page views in one month".

Learn How to Present What You're Selling

Pete dives into the issues that he believes some agencies experience when they sell their service. With Growth Driven Design, the concept is easy to understand, but the verbiage can make it sound like jargon to a prospect or client.

Focusing on using clear and straightforward language that doesn't use a lot of jargon, clients will feel they better understand what they're being sold and what an agency is doing for them.

Confusion can sow distrust, no matter how good a job you're doing.

Clear language will make it easier to sell larger clients, give them the confidence they're sold a proven system and process.

You also want to present how your work directly ties tot heir business results. Instead of jargon, articulate how the work helps the business. For example, instead of explaining SEO, talk about how it generates and closes lead so that the company can consistently scale and grow.

By avoiding jargon, agencies can do a better job closing and keeping clients.

You can reach Pete at his website or on LinkedIn.

Tristan Ruml

Tristan Ruml

I focus on DoInbound’s growth and marketing. I've worked with a variety of start-ups and businesses to achieve fast growth, increase their revenue, and become more profitable. When I'm not working on DoInbound, I'm outside, traveling or reading.